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Only when asked to explicitly (menu item in the 'File' menu) 2. When the window is minimized. 3. Instead of closing the window. 4. Instead of closing and when minimizing. 10:38:35 <flo> and you can decide if you restore the minimized window with a double or simple click on the icon 10:39:16 <flo> and whether a right click on the icon shows a context menu or does nothing. (that last option seems really completely pointless... or I'm missing something :)) 10:41:29 <clokep> That's definitely pointless. 10:41:52 <clokep> The x/minimize options though people would want both of those most likely. 10:42:03 <clokep> (Although those 4 options could be made into just two options...) 10:42:08 <flo> I think the default should be both 10:42:30 <flo> but I'm wondering how many we should show in the pref dialog and how many can stay in about:config 10:45:05 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 10:46:00 <clokep> Well it's just two checkboxes, "minimize to tray on: "x close", "x minimize" 10:52:06 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 10:52:20 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 10:52:33 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:54:04 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:54:06 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:55:48 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:55:58 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:57:03 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 10:59:23 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 11:02:40 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 11:03:49 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 11:03:55 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:10:33 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 11:10:33 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 11:12:17 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:15:10 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 11:44:36 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:44:36 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:49:31 <varuna> hey clokep i accidently deleted the xpi i downloaded from bugzilla and now (and about two hours before) it's giving an internal error in bugzilla when i visit the bugzilla webpage :( 11:50:35 <clokep_work> varuna: Hmm...Bugzilla seems to be down for me too. 11:50:44 <clokep_work> I don't have a copy of the XPI here at work though. 11:51:11 <clokep_work> I'm guessing this is related to the server problems alluded to earlier, flo? 11:52:08 <rikki> i can access https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/ 11:52:20 <clokep_work> rikki: But can you access any bugs? 11:52:28 <clokep_work> I couldn't (but I could access the home page.) 11:52:40 <flo> mysql is probably down 11:52:52 <flo> Even: ping :) 11:53:20 <rikki> heres the error very long thou 11:53:22 <rikki> want me to paste? 11:53:26 <flo> no :) 11:53:26 <rikki> or pastebin 11:53:47 <rikki> http://pastebin.com/9EPXeBNz 11:53:55 <rikki> its an sql issue it seems 11:54:05 <flo> yeah, I think we all got similar errors 11:54:10 <flo> AIO looks bad too. 11:54:18 * clokep_work is working on the status update (slowly): http://typewith.me/YrzoFRqDWe 11:54:43 <flo> :) 11:57:58 <rikki> hmm i think your database might be corrupt 11:59:14 <flo> /me isn't worried for the bugzilla database 12:00:47 <flo> a full dump of all the databases of that server is saved to the other server every night 12:01:59 <clokep_work> But we have so much activity on it! Something might hae been missed. :P 12:02:37 <rikki> merge the data maybe 12:09:40 <flo> clokep_work: the dump is at 3:42am (local french time) 12:09:58 <clokep_work> I was kidding anyway. :) 12:10:08 <clokep_work> I think the last thing to happen was me closing a random bug. Nothing important. 12:10:28 <flo> we have an immediate copy of any activity in the mailing list anyway 12:12:15 --> jdt has joined #instantbird 12:13:49 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 12:19:05 <clokep_work> Yup! 12:20:55 <-- micahg has quit (Connection timed out) 12:21:35 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 12:26:09 <clokep_work> This is pretty much everything I have for a status update: http://typewith.me/YrzoFRqDWe missing a couple of bug #s, etc. but I'm not sure what else to include. 12:26:16 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 12:26:26 <clokep_work> Maybe what's being worked on right now? (System tray support) 12:27:30 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:27:46 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 12:29:53 <-- clokep_work has quit (Connection timed out) 12:32:30 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:32:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 12:45:20 <flo> clokep_work: bug 469 was just a bug fix. When the contact display name changed (alias, ... and now conversation switching to another buddy), the display name was updated in the title of the tab, but not in the title bar of the window 12:45:46 <clokep_work> Oh, OK. So that's not really anything to include then, right? 12:48:20 <flo> Good question about 0.3a2. I'm not sure if anything is blocking 12:49:09 <flo> maybe finishing the contact stuff so that the list of buddies is displayed in tooltips (relatively trivial to implement) and maybe the top of conversation UI (but it may take a long time to get something that looks right on all 3 OSes :-/) 12:49:45 <clokep_work> The contact stuff is a rather large change that it might be worth pushing stuff out to get more testers? 12:50:16 <flo> yes 12:50:31 <flo> and the systray icon is scary enough that we may want to land it just after releasing the alpha 12:51:00 <clokep_work> Ah, I see. I was hoping it was going to be not scary. :( 12:55:05 <clokep_work> Well then. I think my status update stuff is done. :) (Seems like a lot got done at least?) 12:55:59 <flo> :) 12:56:27 <flo> C++ code that touches the OS APIs directly is scary ;). 12:56:40 <clokep_work> :) Fair enough. 12:57:06 <clokep_work> I guess this is another dependency we need to watch now for updates. :( 12:57:17 <flo> I'm not sure the Dark simple should be the first thing listed in the post 12:57:48 <clokep_work> Yes, I meant to reorder all of them actually. 13:02:11 <clokep_work> Alright. Kind of moved them around a bit so the "important" ones are up top. 13:02:21 <flo> :) 13:04:51 <clokep_work> P.S. Etherpad is really good for stuff like this, much better than Google Wave was IMO. :-D 13:10:36 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 13:10:47 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:14:32 <-- jdt has quit (Ping timeout) 13:20:15 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:22:21 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:27:20 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:27:23 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:29:01 <flo> when is the deadline for SoC student applications? 13:30:13 --> jdt has joined #instantbird 13:31:20 <clokep_work> No idea. 13:33:09 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:33:11 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:34:51 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:34:53 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:39:18 <-- VanpoofFluffy-kun_Ol has quit (Client exited) 13:40:48 <clokep_work> That something you wanted to add? 13:41:16 <clokep_work> Friday at 12 PM apparently. 13:41:30 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:41:32 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:42:13 <flo> clokep_work: I just wanted to be sure I've replied to (or at least read) all requests for feedback/comments on applications before the deadline 13:43:05 <clokep_work> OK. :) 13:44:09 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:44:10 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:45:50 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:50:01 * clokep_work is now known as clokep_meeting 13:57:45 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:02:37 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:02:44 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 14:05:40 <waynenguyen> flo : I just sent my application to you :). 14:12:48 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:17:48 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 14:30:12 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 15:03:41 <-- jdt has left #instantbird () 15:06:40 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 15:44:17 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 15:45:55 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:48:06 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 15:49:50 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping 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joined #instantbird 19:57:27 <flo> clokep: was that status update post ready to publish or were there details that you still wanted to discuss or rephrase? 20:09:12 <clokep_meeting> flo: Hey, sorry. was in a meeting. 20:09:27 <clokep_meeting> Uhh...I think it's ready. It might need a picture or two though which I can't get right now. 20:09:47 <clokep_meeting> Only other part was whether you wanted to write anything about when alpha 2 would be released, but that's up to you. :) 20:13:14 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 20:14:03 <flo> I would like to know :) 20:15:36 <clokep_meeting> You would like to know when it'll be released? ;) 20:16:07 <flo> yes! 20:16:16 <flo> I would like to know for Instantbird 1.0 too by the way :) 20:17:14 <clokep_meeting> !8ball Will 1.0 be released in the next year? 20:17:15 <instantbot> clokep_meeting: You're kidding, right? 20:17:26 <clokep_meeting> Ouch. :( 20:17:32 <igorko> about what release you are talking? 20:18:55 <clokep_meeting> Instantbird 1.0? 20:19:46 <igorko> no 20:19:58 <igorko> this one is btw... 20:20:33 <igorko> if you are talking about 0.3... I need to commit some locale updates 20:20:51 <igorko> but waiting for another changes 20:21:10 <igorko> to commit all in one 20:21:27 <clokep_meeting> We're talking about alpha 2 right now? 20:21:33 * clokep_meeting is confused. 20:22:00 <-- wesj has quit (Ping timeout) 20:23:04 <clokep_meeting> flo: We might forget about screen shots and just do a nice set when 0.3 is released? 20:24:08 <flo> igorko: we will make an anouncement when we are ready to stop changing the en-US string for 0.3. It will most likely be for 0.3beta1. I can't tell you yet when it will be ;). 20:24:34 <flo> clokep_meeting: ok... We'll need to do a really good job at that time if we want to increase the user base ;) 20:25:18 <clokep_meeting> We can do it now too. :) I can't make them until tonight though, at least not for a few hours -- not sure how soon you wanted to get this out there... (it does have the SoC stuff which has a deadline) 20:27:40 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 20:27:46 <flo> in a few minutes would be great 20:27:50 <flo> I can live without screenshots 20:28:08 <clokep_meeting> OK! I'll give it one last read over. 20:28:34 <flo> is there a way to export the document as HTML to have the <ul> and <li> tags automatically? :-D 20:29:01 <clokep_meeting> flo: Top of the page > Export > HTML 20:30:03 <clokep_meeting> Oh, blah. That odesn't work. :( 20:30:07 <clokep_meeting> It converts all the entities. 20:30:41 <clokep_meeting> Probably export as HTML then do a mass replace for < and > 20:33:50 <flo> ok I'll try :) 20:34:10 <clokep_meeting> flo: I'm on my way out though, is there anything else before I go? :) 20:34:17 <flo> I don't think so 20:34:26 <flo> nothing I can't decide myself at least 20:34:33 <clokep_meeting> Awesome. :) Good luck. 20:34:42 <flo> You don't mind if I don't set the author of the post to your name until tomorrow? 20:34:52 <clokep_meeting> No. 20:34:59 <flo> I should really add an UI for that :( 20:35:06 <clokep_meeting> I don't care if it ever gets set to my name really...but it shouldn't be so hard to do. ;) 20:35:11 <clokep_meeting> Is it a custom blog script? 20:35:53 <flo> yes 20:36:00 <flo> it's the php code of my blog 20:36:14 <clokep_meeting> Ah, OK. 20:36:17 <flo> I wrote that a looooong time ago, with strange (crazy?) optimization concerns 20:36:21 <clokep_meeting> I've written those before...pain in the neck. :) 20:36:39 <clokep_meeting> (I also wrote an entire shopping system once...) 20:36:44 <clokep_meeting> Anyway, ciao. 20:36:49 <flo> Good evening :) 20:36:55 <-- clokep_meeting has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:45:18 --> Mic2 has joined #instantbird 20:45:45 <Mic2> hi 20:45:50 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 20:46:59 <Mic2> flo, clokep: I added half a sentence saying that the mails to contact@... are publicly visible, even though it might not be that well-phrased 20:47:33 <Mic2> just to make sure that you know that the thing at typewith.me had changed in the meantime 20:48:22 <Mic2> nn 20:48:24 <-- Mic2 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:50:57 <-- kaie has quit (Quit: Leaving) 20:51:09 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 21:00:57 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 21:01:07 <-- wesj has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:18:43 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 21:21:44 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 21:25:38 <-- wesj1 has quit (Ping timeout) 21:27:24 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 21:30:29 <-- wesj has quit (Ping timeout) 21:30:46 --> flo has joined #instantbird 21:30:46 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:32:25 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 21:37:09 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 21:37:39 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 21:48:44 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 21:58:27 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 21:59:32 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ : 21:59:33 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n39-status-update-february-2011-march-2011.html - Status Update: February 2011 - March 2011 22:07:42 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 22:07:43 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 22:27:11 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 22:49:31 <-- zachlr has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:50:31 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:50:31 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 23:02:03 <clokep> Mic: I saw someone did it but wasn't sure who, it sounded OKish...I couldn't think of a better way. :) Thanks! 23:03:37 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 23:03:50 <-- wesj has quit (Ping timeout) 23:04:54 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 23:05:15 <-- wesj1 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:05:28 <-- zachlr has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:12:27 <clokep> flo: Did you ever check in the fix for the twistie icons for expanding groups? 23:23:46 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 23:30:45 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 23:44:00 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 23:53:26 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: mepine) 23:56:48 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird