#instantbird log on 02 21 2011

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00:00:21 <flo> a cleanup ( 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 72 deletions(-)) patch I wrote today: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/570
00:00:41 <Sertion> clokep: Gratz :)
00:01:09 <flo> it makes the message theme preview in the pref window use jsProtoHelper for the message and conversation objects
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00:10:15 <clokep> Nice. :)
00:10:31 <clokep> Thanks Sertion.
00:10:44 <clokep> flo, Any opinion about bug 710, which Sertion just did this afternoon?
00:10:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Dark variant of the Simple skin
00:12:21 <clokep> (Not necessarily about the code, but the idea.)
00:12:36 <flo> clokep: well. The code probably works. I haven't seen the result yet :)
00:12:37 <clokep> Whether it's wanted.
00:14:27 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/29458856cc04 - Florian Quèze - Use jsProtoHelper for the message and conversation objects of the message theme preview in the preferences window.
00:14:28 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/4e3765a57e17 - Florian Quèze - Fix jsProtoHelper around adding buddies and normalizedName properties, r=clokep.
00:17:21 <flo> clokep: it's probably acceptable (very unlikely to be in the way of someone who don't want it). I'm not sure I would go as far as "wanted" though.
00:18:15 <clokep> Acceptable WFM. :)
00:23:47 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 527 to bug 710.
00:23:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710 enh, --, ---, albin.jacobsson, UNCO, Dark variant of the Simple skin
00:29:07 <Sertion> Oh, flo, great idea :o
00:37:01 <flo> Good night! :)
00:37:09 <Sertion> G'nite
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00:44:09 <clokep> I guess someone should confirm that bug. ;)
00:44:43 <Sertion> clokep: Do you need to confirm enhancements? :o
00:44:58 <clokep> Marking it from "Unconfirmed" to "Assigned"
00:45:05 <Sertion> True
00:46:33 <clokep> I guess I should make more of those commands work...or maybe registering...
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01:02:52 * clokep dislikes how when I manually change my name back to my nick I need to reauth w/ nickserv.
01:03:22 <Mook> see if you can add customizable hooks!
01:03:48 <clokep> Not sure what you mean.
01:03:55 <Mook> then it's on-nick-change, if new nick is "clokep" on "moznet", /msg nickserv identify foofoo :)
01:04:19 <clokep> Yes...well...I was more of just going to have my IRC one send the password back. ;)
01:04:21 <Mook> (... presumably without pretending to be text fields because that just isn't going to work :p )
01:05:33 <Mook> random crap thing I learned that everybody else probably already knew: free domain registrar + google apps = non-@gmail.com free email
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01:07:13 <clokep> Hmm...that could be useful.
01:08:52 * clokep just realized a really annoying bug in Komodo edit was fixed. ;)
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01:48:22 * clokep wonders if people ever use the /memoserv and /chanserv commands. ;)
01:51:41 * Mook does!
01:51:56 <Mook> at least, /chansev invite <+s channel>
01:52:09 <clokep> There's a /invite command ya know.
01:52:10 <Mook> oh, and I have three messages in memoserv still
01:52:27 <Mook> no, I need to get chanserv to invite me _into_ the channel
01:52:39 <clokep> Ohhhh. I see.
01:52:47 <clokep> I can make an /inviteme!!! command. :P
01:53:03 <clokep> I actually might make an extension for custom commands anyway.
01:53:08 <Mook> memoserv is great for leaving notes to myself :)
01:53:15 <Mook> (since I use a different nick at work)
01:53:17 <clokep> (Like you were saying before, but not based on previous actions.)
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03:00:21 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 528 to bug 507.
03:00:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Implement IRC in JavaScript
03:04:15 <clokep> Well that feels good to have made some progress again. :)
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09:35:32 <igorko> hi
09:43:18 <igorko> have someone any idea how to rebuild language pack without any changes(seems adding tag doesn't rebuild it)
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09:46:53 <Mic> hmm, js-irc :)
09:46:57 <igorko> oh
09:47:07 <igorko> nice Just recieved pull mail
09:47:20 <igorko> push*
09:47:39 <igorko> uk language pack status: Failure.
09:47:39 <igorko> Your language pack was not build for an unknown reason, please contact an administrator to get this fixed!
09:47:50 <igorko> what the hack?
09:52:50 <igorko> Mic
09:52:56 <igorko> have someone any idea how to rebuild language pack without any changes(seems adding tag doesn't rebuild it)
09:53:36 <Mic> Sorry, no idea.
09:54:13 <Mic> Even, is there a way to rebuild a language pack without pushing anything?
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10:07:03 <Mic> /mode
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10:59:18 <Even> @Mic: sorry for the time I took to see your message
10:59:50 <Even> No there isn't for a normal translator. BUt they can ask me and I can do it.
10:59:54 <Even> I'll look into this.
11:00:38 <Even> @igorko: In fact, the langage pack was built correctly, it is the upload on the server that failed.
11:02:06 <Even> Do you need the langpack for testing purposes or is the fact that it is OK enough ?
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11:34:11 <yoh> hello
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11:34:49 <yoh> i'm trying to add an extension on Instantbird (nightly)
11:35:47 <yoh> in the add-ons manager -> install adds from file
11:36:02 <yoh> I choose an xpi but nothing append :-/
11:41:57 <clokep> Are you using instantbird 0.2 or 0.3a1 or 0.3a2pre?
11:42:23 <yoh> 0.3a2pre
11:43:00 <yoh> I install the nightly this morning (i'm french)
11:44:36 <yoh> *I have installed
11:47:07 <clokep> OK, you can try dragging & dropping onto the add-ons manager.
11:47:18 <clokep> Is the extension compatible w/ the nightly? That could be your issue.
11:49:13 <yoh> drag/drop don't work
11:49:41 <yoh> <em:maxVersion>0.3a1pre</em:maxVersion>
11:49:50 <yoh> ok :D
11:50:05 <yoh> I change that
11:50:22 <clokep> Yes. :)
11:53:08 <yoh> not better :(
11:54:24 <clokep> Is there an error message or does nothing happen?
11:55:23 <yoh> yes..
11:55:26 <yoh> Warning: WARN addons.xpi: Invalid XPI: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8052000b (NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED) [nsIZipReader.open]"  nsresult: "0x8052000b (NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED)"  location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/modules/XPIProvider.jsm :: AI_loadManifest :: line 5360"  data: no] Source File: resource://gre/modules/XPIProvider.jsm Line: 5
11:55:34 <yoh> Warning: WARN addons.xpi: Download failed: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8052000b (NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED) [nsIZipReader.open]"  nsresult: "0x8052000b (NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED)"  location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/modules/XPIProvider.jsm :: AI_loadManifest :: line 5360"  data: no] Source File: resource://gre/modules/XPIProvider.jsm Lin
11:55:52 <yoh> I'm on Win7
11:56:47 <yoh> I donwload et try with an other extension
11:58:30 <clokep> There's something wrong with that extension then.
11:58:40 <clokep> I have to go, good luck. :)
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12:16:54 <Mic> clokep: some issues I found so far with js-irc
12:16:56 <Mic> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/571
12:17:19 <Mic> /mode +v IRCMonkey16305
12:17:22 <Mic> hmm ..
12:31:49 * flo would like to know why there's no error message anymore when trying to install an incompatible add-on
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12:46:03 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 712 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
12:46:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, No UI feedback when attempting to install an incompatible add-on
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12:47:50 <igorko> flo ping
12:47:59 <igorko> hi all again
12:49:03 <igorko> hm- reading logs
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12:50:03 <igorko> Even need language pack for testing
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12:50:51 <Even> ok
12:50:53 <clokep_work> Mic: /kick is not a command, you need to provide a nick alos...although I suppose I should check to make sure there is one. :)
12:50:55 <Even> I'll produce one for you then.
12:51:18 <clokep_work> And I tested /msg and /query...but maybe I broke something after I tested it. :(
12:53:04 <Even> @igorko: http://ftp.instantbird.org/instantbird/l10n/instantbird-uk-4d6260096ae24.xpi
12:53:54 <igorko> yep- found. So it was there?
12:54:20 <igorko> or you uploaded it?
12:54:44 <instantbot> sabret00the@yahoo.co.uk added attachment 529 to bug 632.
12:54:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=632 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Menu Review
12:55:20 <igorko> Even just want to know if the ame will happend on next tag addind
12:55:26 <igorko> same*
12:55:32 <igorko> happen* ;)
12:55:46 <igorko> adding* :)
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12:55:56 <Even> Should not.
12:56:04 <Even> It was only a timeout during a connexion.
12:56:12 <igorko> i see
12:56:15 <igorko> thanks
12:56:20 <Even> It may happen again but it's not a common issue.
12:57:08 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 713 filed by sabret00the@yahoo.co.uk.
12:57:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=713 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Text box missing left and right padding
12:57:14 <Even> And since you asked, no uploading it again would have been a pain. I just started all over again the build process.
12:57:35 <Even> The whole process is automated so I just had to wait for the link :)
12:58:01 <flo> Even: would it be hard to add a web UI so that localizers can request a new langpack themselves?
12:58:52 <Even> @flo: I don't really know. Might not be very hard. Probably more a time issue than a difficulty issue.
12:59:39 <Even> @flo: it's probably in the same vein than the website I created a year ago for our game strategy subject.
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12:59:56 <Even> @flo: Probably even a little easier than that....
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13:00:22 <flo> I'm asking that because currently we produce a new langpack each time one of our translators changes something, but new langpack may also be needed each time we change the version number, or each time mozilla strings are changed
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13:01:23 <flo> Even: I would not be opposed to creating a new langpack for each language every night just after the nightly, and expiring more aggressively old langpacks.
13:02:00 <flo> that would have the advantage of having a current log of which strings are missing for each locale, rather than waiting for someone to push something to get the log (after a libpurple upgrade for example)
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13:03:00 <yoh> flo: hello
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13:03:10 <Even> Well, I don't have any problem with that too but I don't have time to look into this either.
13:03:13 <yoh> indeed there is no error message
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13:03:30 <flo> is it easier?
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13:03:39 <Even> I don't think it is.
13:04:41 <flo> we can just add a shell script in the crontab that requests a build for each locale every night ;)
13:04:56 <Even> My idea of it is that both are not difficult. Probably not very easy but it's something everyone that knows how to read some python code and some doc should be able to do.
13:05:21 <Even> The only thing is that in both case it's probably half a day to a full day of work.
13:05:47 <Even> And I don't really have the time to put into this.
13:05:59 <Even> Since it's more like a plus and thus has no urgency...
13:06:11 <Even> I don't feel to give a priority to this.
13:06:13 * flo dreams of having an l10n coordinator who would welcome new translators and improve the tools for them. :)
13:06:22 <Even> I would rather do some rework of the update service database before that.
13:06:58 <flo> Even: getting the new add-on manager to work well with the add-ons website may be even more useful ;)
13:07:08 <Even> (which is something I'm wanting to do but already don't find time to)
13:07:23 <Even> flo: Yes, that is in my todo list too...
13:07:39 <Even> flo: that is the more ungrateful job because I suspect it implies to update remora...
13:08:04 <Even> flo: I'm really scared by the idea.
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13:08:56 <Even> flo: there are services I'm okay to update nearly anytime (bugzilla for exmple) and others I rather prefer to put aside until it's not working at all anymore (socorro + remora)
13:09:35 <igorko> btw- gecko is updated from mozilla at every build?
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13:10:03 <igorko> because they added my video drivers to black list and redrawing issue is gone
13:10:13 <clokep_work> igorko: Yes, it is.
13:10:28 <igorko> good- than i can close my bugs
13:10:31 <Mic> clokep_work: here's a bit more, I just updated it: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/573
13:11:38 <clokep_work> Mic: Thanks. :) The errors with the commands are a little expected, I didn't fully test every situation with them.
13:11:48 <clokep_work> The ones from just "everyday" use are more concerning. :(
13:12:47 <clokep_work> I know what some of them are from at least, which is good! (The /me ones are since I haven't implemented CTCP yet.)
13:13:51 <Mic> I've tried /kick #instantbird Mic some reason..
13:14:33 <clokep_work> Hmm...OK, maybe I'm calling the wrong command.
13:16:30 <clokep_work> Thanks a lot though.
13:16:38 * clokep_work thinks he should have called them alphas, not betas.
13:25:26 <clokep_work> Actually Mic I though that /kick expects just the nickname after it and you do it in the room they're in?
13:25:38 <clokep_work> So it would be just "/kick Mic"
13:25:46 <clokep_work> But I have to check. :)
13:26:01 <Mic> I just tried
13:27:47 <clokep_work> Bah. OK. Well thanks, if you continue using it, throw more errors my way. I'll definitely check out the ones you gave me so far.
13:27:49 <Mic> I saw it on the code a moment ago.. you're expecting username and reason and add the channel name to the beginning of the params array as it seems
13:28:26 <clokep_work> Yes, the server needs to know the channel.
13:28:59 <clokep_work> Unless I'm putting the nickname and reason in the wrong order. That's quite possible.
13:29:31 <clokep_work> But it's sending just "KICK" and that's it, which isn't correct.
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13:32:46 <Mic> So the "Sending ... &lt;XYZ&gt;" messages show exactly it was sending, I guess
13:34:26 <clokep_work> Yes.
13:34:37 <clokep_work> It's the last thing before sending it ot the socket.
13:44:13 <instantbot> mansonigor@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 667 to FIXED.
13:44:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=667 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, Garbage on desktop and window border when using buddy list main menu
13:44:24 <Mic> Forget the /me from js-irc issue, it was a dead connection as it seems
13:45:32 <clokep_work> Mic: I'm not sure I implemented /me yet? :-X
13:47:33 <Mic> It works when receiving a message starting with /me, maybe that doesn't require a special command? It's done when receiving the message maybe?
13:48:28 <clokep_work> The command code only deals w/ generate the specific IRC command to get the proper behavior, it doesn't deal with parsing respsonses at all.
13:49:46 <instantbot> mansonigor@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 665 to FIXED.
13:49:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, "Join chat" dialog width can be increased up to infinity if localized
13:50:27 <instantbot> mansonigor@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 666 to FIXED.
13:50:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, Dropdown list in "Join chat" dialog combobox is truncated if localized
13:52:37 <clokep_work> Our number of bugs is dropping fast apparently. ;)
13:53:53 <igorko> i'll go See ya
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13:56:32 <Mic> flo: first messages of bug 712 look like bug 562 (I can't login to Bugzilla atm (my problem, not yours;))
13:56:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, No UI feedback when attempting to install an incompatible add-on
13:56:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, 'pref not found' - warning when opening themes pane on preferences
13:57:21 <Mic> Oops, that's the pref window bug.. let me find the other
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13:59:58 <Mic> hmm, maybe I never filed it. I've been seeing this for quite a while when just opening the addons manager (no other issues involved)
14:01:05 <clokep_work> Mic: I think bug 562 is the right one?
14:01:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, 'pref not found' - warning when opening themes pane on preferences
14:02:11 <Mic> No, that's about the preferences window, not the add-on manager
14:02:44 <clokep_work> Oh, well I get that same thing on the add-on manager. ;)
14:03:17 <Mic> Maybe that's the problem why I never filed it: because I knew I've reported this error message before
14:04:04 <Mic> Morian: can we get an exclude of /today/ and /yesterday/ in robots.txt? Google is indexing them and that's just no good 
14:10:22 <instantbot> sabret00the@yahoo.co.uk added attachment 530 to bug 630.
14:10:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unable to send an IM to someone not on your buddy list
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14:34:59 <Mic> Ahem: "15:27:28 - Even has left the room (Quit: function(aMessage) { Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre)."
14:35:57 <Mic> That doesn't look right..
14:39:09 <flo> nice bug :)
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14:51:36 <Mic> I wonder how the number of users develops after the boost at the beginning of  this year
14:54:47 <Mic> bbl
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14:55:08 <flo> is that another way to say you would like to have daily statistics updated automatically? ;)
14:56:38 <flo> I would like that too. But actually, the data I'm the most interested in producing is a comparison of the download count and of the evolution of the users count, to see how the retention rate has evolved.
15:02:31 <clokep_work> Mic: Maybe that's just his quit message? ;)
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15:33:55 <instantbot> albin.jacobsson@gmail.com added attachment 531 to bug 710.
15:33:56 <instantbot> albin.jacobsson@gmail.com cancelled review?(idechix@instantbird .org) for attachment 525 on bug 710.
15:33:57 <instantbot> albin.jacobsson@gmail.com requested review from idechix@instantbird .org for attachment 531 on bug 710.
15:33:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710 enh, --, ---, albin.jacobsson, ASSI, Dark variant of the Simple skin
15:49:25 <instantbot> sabret00the@yahoo.co.uk added attachment 532 to bug 630.
15:49:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unable to send an IM to someone not on your buddy list
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16:10:55 <Mic> I've seen this quit message on someone else before that's why I'm no longer convinced that it is 'just his quit message' ;)
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16:28:37 <instantbot> idechix@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 531 on bug 710.
16:28:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710 enh, --, ---, albin.jacobsson, ASSI, Dark variant of the Simple skin
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23:07:39 <clokep1> Fixed Mic's first error. ;)
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