All times are UTC.
00:08:15 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 00:12:07 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 00:23:14 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 00:25:38 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 00:35:55 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 00:58:28 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 01:17:22 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 01:21:43 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:43:43 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 01:58:22 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 02:03:02 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 02:04:42 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 02:29:22 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 02:42:51 <-- orlik has quit (Quit: leaving) 02:52:18 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 03:04:52 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 03:08:11 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 03:24:02 <-- hicham has left #instantbird () 03:33:14 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 03:33:25 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 03:35:16 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 03:41:21 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout) 03:51:37 --> mortisha has joined #instantbird 03:51:53 <mortisha> hello 03:52:14 <mortisha> is any body here? 03:53:28 <-- mortisha has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 03:55:23 --> pudgetta has joined #instantbird 03:55:53 <-- pudgetta has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 03:58:08 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 04:01:16 <rikki> hey flo, are you planning any time to add BNC support for the irc protocol? 04:01:53 <rikki> well not just you but for any one 04:25:30 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 04:39:10 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 05:54:51 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 06:39:56 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 07:14:32 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 07:49:56 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 07:51:03 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 08:02:10 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 08:25:45 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 09:02:15 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 09:16:52 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 09:20:10 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:20:19 <Mic> Hello 09:26:14 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 09:27:06 <Mic> If there were only more people here .. 09:27:25 <Mic> Tonight someone came in here again, asked if someone's there and left after no response .. 09:27:44 <Mic> .. would be interesting to know what they wanted to say or ask. 09:44:17 <flo> Mic: maybe the bot should reply "ask your question please"? 09:51:07 <Mic> I thought of something similiar, where the user would be asked to just say what he wants to say/ask telling him that someone checks the log files 09:51:20 <Mic> And maybe a way to leave a message for the user? 09:51:30 <Mic> Memos won't work for unregistered nicks though 09:53:12 <Mic> Like leaving a message with Instantbot that gets delivered if the one comes back again? 09:53:34 <Mic> No idea how complicated that would be and how high the return would be 09:53:57 <Mic> Return in the sense how many would actually use it 09:57:18 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:00:12 <flo> this night it was at 5:51am in our (European) time. I'm not sure how many Americans were there at that time, but we certainly weren't there ;). 10:00:25 <flo> rikki: what's BNC? 10:01:07 <rikki> BNC, a peice of software that allows a connection to be persisted to a server even when you are not connected 10:01:51 <rikki> for IRC, a BNC server can keep your nick on a server and manage connection or even turn into a bot 10:02:01 <rikki> also most can auto ID against nickserv 10:02:56 <rikki> does that help you flo? 10:03:57 <Mic> A "Bouncer" 10:04:15 <Mic> I think they're used on networks were you can't register your nick 10:04:23 <rikki> no 10:04:37 <rikki> they are used even when there is services like nickserv 10:04:40 <Mic> To keep your nick in case you disconnect 10:06:24 <flo> it seems like a proxy set up on a different server. How does that require special support on the local client? 10:07:17 <rikki> because it requires a commands not suported by the irc protocal from memory 10:08:02 <rikki> but it depends which software you use 10:12:08 <Mic> I've read a bit about and I'm not sure I like the principle 10:12:22 <rikki> i use 1 on another network 10:12:25 <rikki> they are quite usefull 10:13:08 <flo> I don't really see why this should be limited to IRC 10:13:43 <rikki> i havn't known a BNC for msn to be widely used 10:14:08 <flo> the use case would be the same 10:14:20 <Mic> It increases idling (ie people being in the channel who are actually offline), it might even work against the services or the spirit of the network (which might be not allowing to take nicks permanently (ie registering) for some reason), .. 10:15:01 <rikki> your right it does 10:15:40 <Mic> ok, sometimes I'd also like that I could restart Ib without dancing in and out here 10:15:48 <Mic> but that's rare 10:16:09 <flo> that could be useful for people having a poor connection 10:16:15 <rikki> yes 10:16:24 <rikki> or those who are worried about there privicy 10:16:24 <flo> or annoyed by a proxy that only allows some ports 10:16:36 <rikki> like some networks that do not allow for hiding ip 10:16:51 <flo> you can already use a proxy for that 10:17:02 <rikki> yes i know that 10:17:08 <flo> I usually proxy all my IM connections to a server in a datacenter, through an ssh tunnel 10:17:59 <Mic> The increased privacy by hiding your actual host/IP is positive, indeed 10:18:26 <flo> only if you control the server 10:18:44 <flo> if not, you are just giving all your messages to some third party... 10:19:18 <rikki> generally BNC providers do not log your conversations without you wanting them to 10:19:36 <flo> how do you verify that? 10:19:39 <rikki> and the only reason you would want them to is to have a buffer play back of the last messages whilst you were offline 10:19:56 <rikki> i host my own.. i know what can be set and it is obvious 10:20:32 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:22:30 <rikki> there could be a nice feature to fix this, a feature that allows you to specify actions upon e.g. connect 10:33:26 <Mic> If you like to do an addon that performs some actions "on connect" you should observe "account-connected" notifications 10:33:29 <Mic> (cf https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Notifications) 10:34:05 <rikki> i won't get work on this for a while 10:34:08 <Mic> Bad thing is: you can't send commands in the background so to speak 10:34:40 <rikki> this is the sought of thing that should be hooked into the scripting engine 10:36:28 <Mic> (example for a background job: sending "/mode" to the IRC server to determine if topics are protected or so and adjusting UI accordingly (ie disabling the "set topic" UI if the user isn't op..)) 10:43:35 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:06:09 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 11:33:25 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Ping timeout) 11:37:06 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 12:22:16 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dd9527ca1720 - Florian Quèze - Insert messages after potential scripts of Footer.html have been executed. 12:22:17 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7127f7c6af70 - Florian Quèze - Port build config change from bug 559961. 12:22:18 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/02c94a5bad5f - Florian Quèze - Fix bustage after bug 580407 landed on mozilla-central. 12:22:19 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/cc4e902cbd70 - Florian Quèze - Port build changes from bug 579178 (Don't enumerate components/*.manifest and chrome/*.manifest) 12:22:20 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/9729f5cfc89c - Florian Quèze - Remove purpleContentPolicy. 12:22:21 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/314c57c4a806 - Florian Quèze - Remove obsolete xpcnativewrappers directive in branding jar.mn files. 12:22:22 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6999d97d3db1 - Florian Quèze - Initialize the conversation content in a way that is compatible with the new HTML5 parser, and executes scripts contained in Footer.html. 12:38:49 <-- rikki has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 12:44:29 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 12:52:35 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 12:52:54 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 12:57:01 <deOmega> Since Stephen Lau left Songbird... just seems so dead over there. I wonder how many others have left? How sad. 13:02:49 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:18:00 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 13:19:27 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:22:17 <flo> deOmega: they have hired Brian King, don't they? 13:24:06 <deOmega> I do not really know, but i do realize that communication in the community seems to have vanished 13:24:14 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 13:24:25 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:25:10 <deOmega> sorry for the in and outs.. was trying out some themes 13:26:26 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 13:26:39 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:27:08 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 13:27:38 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:27:50 <deOmega> ok 13:34:48 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:41:44 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:44:03 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 13:44:28 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:58:39 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:59:45 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 14:00:39 <deOmega> a lot of these themes are working fine 14:01:37 <deOmega> They could all do with some tweaking.. but.. teh text in terms of spacing are now great 14:01:52 <deOmega> there was a problem with that before. 14:06:11 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:06:21 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 14:08:16 <deOmega> Pixol is a very nice and clean theme 14:08:36 <deOmega> except it only allows for one color messages 14:08:41 <deOmega> well, message style 14:09:36 <deOmega> I wonder if one can overwrite that in a message style? i will look and see 14:11:01 * deOmega not working today 14:23:51 <deOmega> seems like if i want to see someone message in black.. i choose message body color as 111 14:24:26 <deOmega> if i want to see a variation depending on what the sender has set on their side.. is there a code that goes there instead? 14:25:35 <deOmega> would it be instead of color: #111;, be color: #variant; 14:34:02 * Gizmokid2005 is pretty sure that Instantbird is going to have a mac tester very soon :) 14:35:33 <Gizmokid2005> (another one at least) 14:39:17 <flo> Gizmokid2005: does this mean you are buying a Mac? ;) 14:39:23 <Gizmokid2005> flo: I've had one 14:39:26 <Gizmokid2005> for 3.5 years now 14:39:34 <Gizmokid2005> but I'm starting to get really fedup with Adium 14:40:36 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 14:40:50 <flo> Gizmokid2005: what's wrong with it? 14:41:56 <Gizmokid2005> I don't like the developers attitude for one...and two, just the random issues I find...the Buddy list doesn't seem to follow it's options very well...and is hard to keep visible and act properly with expose, etc. 14:43:29 <flo> I think it's the first time I see complaints about Adium's developers attitude. 14:44:52 <Gizmokid2005> Yep, they seem to have a "holier than thou" attitude in general... 14:45:06 <Gizmokid2005> I'm used to OSS software being pretty laid back, and ok with accepting comments, etc... 14:45:23 <Gizmokid2005> I've been using their "dev" builds for a while now...and one time I loaded it up and it crashed on load 14:45:37 <Gizmokid2005> and they basically said "Piss off, it's a dev snapshot, it doesn't have to work"... 14:45:40 <Gizmokid2005> that was a HUGE turnoff for me 14:48:12 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 14:54:17 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 15:50:34 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 15:51:27 <deOmega> well, i was able to tweak a message style to my satisfation 15:51:33 <deOmega> kudos 16:12:05 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 16:31:14 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 16:55:00 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:55:57 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 17:02:01 <-- deOmega has quit (Ping timeout) 17:02:22 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 17:10:34 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 17:20:48 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 17:22:47 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:28:11 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 17:29:42 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 17:38:17 <Mic> evening 17:46:01 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 18:08:46 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 18:21:54 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:21:55 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 18:34:18 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:34:21 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 18:36:00 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:36:00 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 18:50:00 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 18:56:06 <deOmega> hi.. in one of these message styles 18:56:18 <deOmega> it has '' buddy icon Blocked 18:56:46 <deOmega> how does one change that? i mean... i would assume remove teh entry totally? 19:13:37 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 19:17:51 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 19:21:12 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 19:21:12 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 19:37:23 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 20:00:28 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 20:09:13 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:23:08 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 20:27:29 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 20:45:56 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 21:01:27 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 21:18:15 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 21:21:22 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 21:22:57 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 21:40:21 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 21:41:23 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 21:47:00 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:52:08 <clokep> 5:30 in Europe is 1:30 here, still pretty late. ;) 21:52:22 <clokep> Or rather 12:30. Still past my bed time. 21:55:52 <flo> yeah, by the way, on that topic: good night! :) 21:57:24 <clokep> 'night. 22:08:23 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:08:45 --> GeekShad0w has joined #instantbird 22:09:52 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 22:51:10 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 23:08:11 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 23:08:25 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 23:10:02 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 23:12:25 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:12:34 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 23:32:59 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 23:35:07 <-- GeekShad0w has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:37:02 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 23:46:03 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout)