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01:43:54 <skeledrew> buddy status installed...
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02:21:43 <skeledrew> is there any way to force an alias update for your Facebook contacts? hate seeing a couple of my contacts showing an obscure number@chat.facebook.com
02:22:40 <skeledrew> and i'll bet anyone else getting this would have issues too
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08:36:34 <Mic> skeledrew: bug 411
08:36:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, For some Facebook contacts the user-id is shown instead of their name
08:37:15 <skeledrew> k
08:39:37 <skeledrew> Mic: re the buddy status, i have some suggestions to fix some of the issues i see with it. i did some research on the component you used btw, and found it isn't suitable for the fixes i have in mind
08:39:59 <Mic> Go ahead
08:40:26 <Mic> Lets start with the issues you see maybe ;)
08:42:02 <skeledrew> - long lines need to be wrapped.
08:42:02 <skeledrew> - a fixed size notifier should be used, which would make it better to:
08:42:02 <skeledrew> - stack the notices to prevent them overlapping.
08:42:02 <skeledrew> - include the protocol icon as part of the indicator
08:42:13 <skeledrew> ah. my issues...
08:42:51 <Mic> Which are unseuitable for the notification window, I know ;)
08:43:52 <skeledrew> mainly that multiple notices overlap (when there's lots of activity, esp with Facebook), and i don't like the box going too far across the screen. it needs to be truncated or wrapped
08:43:54 <Mic> any of them ;)
08:45:40 <skeledrew> on the other hand, i just learned ALOT from reading the code in the addon :). there were some things about the platform i didn't get, and now they're mostly cleared up :)
08:46:10 <Mic> About the events then?
08:46:19 <skeledrew> now it's much smoother sailing with my addons
08:46:25 <skeledrew> yep
08:47:18 <skeledrew> and the prefs, XPCOM access, ...
08:47:43 <Mic> Ah, ok .. "glad I could help"
08:47:51 <skeledrew> :)
08:47:56 <Mic> I'm not sure how I should adress the issues though
08:48:26 <skeledrew> i nominate your addon as a must have for novice devs
08:48:47 <Mic> Maybe there's something like customizable alert window
08:48:54 <skeledrew> can regular windows be made without title bars?
08:49:13 <Mic> Thanks, but it will need some fixes before releasing it to public
08:50:00 <skeledrew> actually i meant as a reference
08:50:34 <skeledrew> hmm
08:50:57 <Mic> oh, well then
08:51:14 <Mic> Maybe I should put it on the addons HG then
08:51:26 <Mic> ..and clean up the code :D
08:51:55 <skeledrew> looks pretty clean and straight forward so far to me :)
08:52:43 <skeledrew> i think i did see something while searching on MDC re a notification window with a customizable container...
08:52:57 <skeledrew> lemme see if i can remember what i googled...
08:56:59 <skeledrew> oh. it was just a notification box :(
08:57:47 <skeledrew> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XUL/notificationbox
08:58:40 <Mic> By the way the topic bar" is a modified notification box if you're interested in this 
08:59:01 <skeledrew> i just noticed :)
08:59:12 <Mic> (double click it to edit topic if you haven't tried before)
08:59:32 <skeledrew> cool. i never did
08:59:39 <skeledrew> another easter egg :)
08:59:44 <Mic> ok, so feature is not discoverable :(
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09:03:52 <skeledrew> pity
09:04:06 <skeledrew> extensive documentation needed...
09:05:19 <Mic> The conversation window will be refurbished anyways iirc
09:05:23 <skeledrew> seems i can get started on my buddy pounces addon now
09:05:29 <skeledrew> k
09:05:53 <skeledrew> hmm
09:08:15 <skeledrew> how do i view/discover all the properties in aSubject for the buddystatus (and observer events in general)?
09:09:30 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Notifications
09:10:08 <Mic> There are links on the interface implemented by the subject which will lead you to the definition
09:10:24 <skeledrew> yeah. but isn't there any way to find it in the DOM?
09:10:36 <skeledrew> k
09:11:23 <skeledrew> oh. so i read the IDL files?
09:12:46 <Mic> yes
09:12:58 <skeledrew> k
09:13:28 <Mic> If that's a problem just ask
09:15:25 <skeledrew> reading IDL files isn't exactly... intuitive. for me at least. i'll probably need to research it's syntax to better understand what it's saying
09:16:16 <skeledrew> clear examples of usage cases (as in your code) would be much easier IMO
09:16:35 <Mic> Example: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/public/purpleIAccountBuddy.idl#49
09:17:58 <Mic> You either have attributes of certain types or methods
09:19:03 <Mic> hmm, no. I guess it's better to answer questions if you have than then starting to talk about this in general
09:19:08 <skeledrew> not sure what that's saying, or how to use it. as i said, code snippets showing what's happening as it's used usually work better...
09:19:28 <skeledrew> k
09:19:35 <skeledrew> let's see
09:21:10 <skeledrew> what're the purposes of the arguments in a typical .addObserver(aSubject, aTopic, aMsg) call?
09:21:48 <skeledrew> i know it has to do with events, but what do they hold?
09:24:52 <Mic> The first is an object related to the event, the second is the type of the event (as string) and the third is some data
09:26:33 <skeledrew> how do i access the properties within the object? what type is the data usually?
09:27:45 <skeledrew> in the DOM that is...
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09:34:52 <Mic> flo: on alias changes it would be nice to have the old alias
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09:35:31 <Mic> Unfortunately it's not reached through the different functions (starting from: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleInit.cpp#549 )
09:35:38 <Mic> *passed
09:36:18 <Mic> Would be nice if it would send the old alias in the data/aMsg
09:36:52 <Mic> Is there any chance to add that?
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10:51:36 <flo> Mic: ah, we have an old_alias parameter on that function.
10:51:47 <flo> I guess it would be easy to do something with it
10:51:57 <flo> I think this code has changed for the js-proto branch
10:53:21 <flo> ah, it seems the same. Of lxr is not up to date on the js-proto branch (that's possible too :-/)
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12:28:28 <ibbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 454 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
12:28:30 <ibbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Send previous alias as extra information on "buddy-alias" events
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14:04:55 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 455 filed by 1o5g4r8o@gmail.com.
14:04:57 <instantbot> 1o5g4r8o@gmail.com added attachment 319 to bug 455.
14:04:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Build with --with-libxul-sdk >= 1.9.2 fails
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15:44:28 <Mic> flo: is there a way to tell what's going wrong when an extension (in folder, not jar-ed) is neither showing up in the list nor giving an error message?
15:47:24 <Mic> Unfortunately I changed several things at once (file encodings, ..) and tried adding a localized description to install.rdf
15:47:55 <Mic> because of umlauts I had to change the encoding of it as well
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18:18:15 <DGMurdockIII> hi
18:18:21 <DGMurdockIII> anyone here
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18:19:25 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): did you see my bug report about the group not wshowing up correctly
18:19:55 <flo> DGMurdockIII: haven't I commented in it asking which protocol this was on?
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18:20:27 <DGMurdockIII> i think its on msn
18:21:18 <DGMurdockIII> what is the best way to check as i have buddies from differen protocals in the group
18:22:09 <flo> look at the account name in the tooltips of the buddies you see there
18:22:53 <flo> the error (related to showing offline buddies) you have pasted several time from the error console may be related
18:23:31 <DGMurdockIII> it yahoo
18:24:46 <DGMurdockIII> but it werid the error realted to offline budies i dont get anymore
18:25:33 <flo> I've never been able to reproduce it
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18:28:10 <DGMurdockIII> but dose nowing that the it the yahoo protocol help you at all
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18:30:12 <flo> DGMurdockIII: it's probably a bug in the libpurple protocol plugin that forgets to convert the encoding.
18:30:20 <flo> so it's probably in the yahoo protocol plugin
18:31:27 <DGMurdockIII> ok
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19:12:30 <DGMurdockIII> will you be able to fix it
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19:30:52 <ibbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 184 to WONTFIX.
19:30:54 <ibbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Notification on buddy status change/...
19:32:12 <Mic> Morian: did you change Instantbots behaviour so that it doesn't output new bugs to the channel but still writes them to the logs?
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20:52:58 <Morian> gné
20:53:27 <Morian> that was what has been decided then?
21:03:21 <flo> uh?
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21:27:54 <Morian> instantbot: please leave
21:27:57 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'please leave' might be.
21:28:06 <Morian> instantbot: shutdown please
21:28:09 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'shutdown please' might be.
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21:37:40 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
21:37:49 <Morian> O_o
21:38:01 <Morian> wtf now he asks what channel  to join at startup
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21:40:54 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
21:40:54 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 
21:41:12 <Morian> sounds better
21:41:19 <Morian> instantbot: how are you?
21:41:20 <instantbot> Morian: fine thanks! I've been up 28 seconds so far!
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21:42:44 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
21:42:44 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 
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21:44:08 <Morian> instantbot: bug 202
21:44:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202 tri, --, 0.2b1, romain, RESO FIXED, Animation performed on log in/off the group is hidden
21:44:19 <Morian> this works too :)
21:44:22 <Morian> wb instantbot 
21:44:23 <instantbot> Morian! dude!
21:45:15 <Mic> nn
21:46:07 <Morian> night Mic :)
21:52:43 <Morian> instantbot: what is your version?
21:52:47 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'your version' is.
21:52:53 <Morian> instantbot: version
21:52:56 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'version' might be.
21:52:57 <instantbot> Morian: I have no version!
21:53:03 <Morian> fine ...
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22:10:15 <flo> any issue in this? http://queze.net/goinfre/blog-post-major-update.html
22:32:50 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ :
22:32:51 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n27-major-update-to-instantbird-0-2.html - Major update to Instantbird 0.2
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