#instantbird log on 07 11 2010

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00:13:57 <clokep> Well you never know, maybe the macosx nightly build will work...although its not sound very good considering the other 5 failed. ;)
00:14:12 <clokep> Its not often I see the Instantbird tree burning as nicely as it is right now. keeping me warm.
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00:32:33 <DGMurdockIII> ok
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07:13:34 <Mic> morning
07:25:55 <skeledrew> morning
07:30:18 <skeledrew> search function sucks
07:31:41 <skeledrew> i thought it should search in all convo logs for the account being viewed. instead it only searches the current convo log being viewed
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11:02:21 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/31ebf2385ba9 - Florian Quèze - Fix a few issues with 'make distribution'.
11:02:22 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d26e1b0626c6 - Florian Quèze - Fix a few issues with 'make distribution'.
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14:17:11 <Mic> If someone is interested in information on Weave/Firefox Sync, I compiled a list of links in my user space on the wiki
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14:23:05 <clokep> Mic: I was hoping the end of that sentence was "I started porting it for Instantbird." ;)
14:23:37 <Mic> If I said that it would create pressure to actually do it
14:23:56 <Mic> I'll start porting it for Instantbird btw
14:23:59 <Mic> ;)
14:24:40 <clokep> Haha. :) I'll check out the links later, gotta run.
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15:47:26 <Even> hop
15:48:31 <flo> :)
15:48:39 <Even> mince
15:48:43 <Even> il me reconnait pas
15:48:46 <Even> j'ai du changer de mdp
15:48:49 <Even> pour je sais pas quoi :(
15:48:56 <flo> Even: in English? :)
15:49:04 <Even> well
15:49:12 <Even> I'm not saying anything usefull...
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15:50:27 * clokep needs a translation extension. :P
15:51:07 <flo> clokep: you didn't miss anything ;)
15:51:22 <Eventreur> I think it's going to be complicated.
15:51:26 <clokep> I Google Translated it. :P
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15:52:45 <flo> clokep: your add-on could google translate on the fly the hovered messaged, if it detects that the language is not your favorite one (you can detect that by putting the text in a spellcheck enabled textbox and counting the mistakes)
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15:53:36 <clokep> flo: I've thought about making one, but I feel like it'd be better to include a translator instead of relying on a web service...doesn't seem to be any decent free ones.
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15:54:50 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/majorupdate.png :)
15:56:51 <clokep> Awesome, when'll that be available? ;)
15:57:04 <flo> today or tomorrow I guess
15:57:05 <clokep> Although I suppose it really doesn't have much different about it.
15:57:12 <flo> only the version number
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16:00:46 <Even> oO
16:00:50 <Even> It seems to work now !
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16:06:23 <tymerkaev> flo: Why it needed for nightlies?
16:06:32 <tymerkaev> I mean http://queze.net/goinfre/majorupdate.png
16:06:56 <flo> we may add an exception so that it appears as a minor update for nightlies
16:07:09 <flo> currently we are testing the system ;)
16:12:49 <tymerkaev> I think this window should have two variants - Upgrade to the latest 0.2 Nightly or Upgrade to Trunk
16:12:57 <tymerkaev> if using nightly
16:13:09 <flo> I think that's the point
16:13:18 <flo> if you reply "no thanks" you keep getting 0.2 nightlies
16:13:36 <clokep> Which will be 0.2.1pre or something?
16:13:39 <flo> (but we are not going to keep producing them, so in this case we could turn it into a minor update)
16:14:17 <flo> I don't think we have enough resources to produce nightlies on 2 branches
16:14:46 <flo> resources here means both hardware (build machine) and humans (developers, testers)
16:16:25 <flo> clokep: the tree is becoming greener ;)
16:22:44 <tymerkaev> 0.3a1pre will be switched to current mozilla-central or still using 1.9.2?
16:23:18 <flo> 1.9.2 for now, until we fix compilation with Mozilla 2.0
16:23:27 <flo> but it will switch relatively soon to mozilla 2.0
16:25:51 <tymerkaev> but I've one bug, probably you knew about it
16:26:58 <tymerkaev> I can't find "Use Instantbird as my default Instant Messaging client" in win installers and preferences window
16:27:19 <flo> what would it do?
16:27:30 <flo> is this about handling links from your browser?
16:28:03 <tymerkaev> please wait
16:28:09 <tymerkaev> You'll see
16:29:11 <Even> ^^
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16:34:54 <tymerkaev> hmm
16:35:01 <tymerkaev> I can't find it
16:37:06 <tymerkaev> probably you missed it, see http://tinyurl.com/33bwnz8#59
16:38:35 <flo> oh, you mean it's a leftover in the locale file?
16:39:01 <tymerkaev> yes
16:47:55 <tymerkaev> flo: hey
16:48:37 <clokep> I think using as a default messaging client is one of the things which my 1/10th done patch would allow.
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17:44:31 <Even> We have a very good news with flo.
17:44:42 <flo> Linux release candidates: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/0.2-candidates/2010-07-11-18-instantbird/ !
17:44:43 <Even> But I'll let him mae the big announcment ^^
17:44:54 <Even> Here you go :D
17:45:03 <Even> Mac is coming as we speak ^^
17:45:37 <flo> Windows will come probably in an hour to two
17:45:40 <flo> *or two
17:45:44 <Even> Yeah.
17:45:46 <Even> Same folder ^^
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17:46:53 <clokep> Congrats. :)
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18:06:28 <Even> Thx !
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18:18:44 <Even> Mac are available.
18:19:05 <Even> Linux +Mac (Universal) release candidates: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/0.2-candidates/2010-07-11-18-instantbird/
18:23:41 <tymerkaev> Windows?
18:24:00 <flo> not ready yet
18:24:05 <flo> will arrive in a few minutes or hours
18:24:35 <Even> Should be minutes.
18:24:39 <Even> It's in distribution step.
18:24:46 <Even> 15 minutes I suppose.
18:25:28 <Even> It's an estimation that I give without any indicator and anything to prove it true so take it for what it is :P
18:26:00 <Even> It's just that the build is terminated and now there is packaging + upload to do.
18:26:05 <Even> Should take less time :D
18:26:38 <tymerkaev> flo, Even: Do you have a plan to produce win64 builds it the future?
18:26:57 <flo> we have lots of plans for things to do "in the future" :)
18:27:00 <Even> tymerkaev: we will do it after Mozilla does it
18:27:22 <flo> Even: they are don't in for Firefox 4.0
18:27:23 <clokep> tymerkaev: I think there's a bug for that? ;)
18:27:29 <flo> *doing it
18:27:44 <flo> does this sound good: "Context menus (opened with a "right click") are a common and expected part of the user interface. It can be very frustrating when they are missing, so in Instantbird 0.2 we tried to add one wherever users are likely to expect one."
18:27:44 <clokep> flo: But wasn't in Beta 1 (not for all OSes at least).
18:27:47 <tymerkaev> clokep: no
18:27:52 <Even> Then I suppose we will probably have a 64bits version for 0.3.
18:28:03 <clokep> flo: It does sound good, I wrote it. :)
18:28:05 <Even> It's only a matter of slaves for buildbot and some tuning :)
18:28:08 <tymerkaev> agree
18:28:30 <clokep> tymerkaev: No for the beta comment or for the bug comment?
18:28:54 <tymerkaev> bug
18:29:03 <tymerkaev> You can report it.
18:29:38 <tymerkaev> like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558448
18:29:38 <clokep> tymerkaev: I'm not going to report it, I don't have a 64-bit system.
18:29:47 <clokep> But there is a bug: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395
18:29:50 <instantbot> Bug 395 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, 64-bit builds
18:29:55 <flo> clokep: no, I just rewrote it because it was too complicated in my opinion ;)
18:31:52 <Even> Ok, windowss has terminated packaging
18:31:55 <Even> only up is left
18:31:57 <Even> symbols first
18:32:03 <Even> then the files you are interested in :)
18:34:10 <Even> ok
18:34:14 <Even> windows is coming
18:34:18 <Even> zip file is there
18:34:24 <Even> installer on its way
18:34:33 <Even> (en-US)
18:35:04 <Even> done
18:35:10 <Even> fi version now
18:36:07 * flo feels sad about that red box that we may keep for a long time if we don't need an rc2 build
18:38:42 <Even> The en-US installer does not start on my computer
18:38:44 <Even> what about yours ?
18:41:59 <Mic> Even: should it also include partial updates?
18:42:17 <Mic> Sorry ..
18:42:25 <Mic> It's about the release version
18:42:47 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ :
18:42:48 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n24-context-menus.html - Context menus
18:43:01 <Mic> ah, I wanted to say something about that first
18:43:44 <tymerkaev> Even: http://img64.imageshack.us/i/erroruj.png/
18:44:34 <Mic> as we don't have a context menu on the MUC participant list yet
18:44:45 <tymerkaev> I can't launch it too.
18:45:01 <Even> Yep, I have the same error.
18:45:06 <Even> We are investigating on this ohne.
18:45:09 <tymerkaev> flo: maybe you need aero screens?
18:45:14 <Even> Seems to be Win7 specific.
18:45:22 <tymerkaev> 64-bit?
18:45:27 <Even> Maybe someone here can check with Vista ?
18:45:38 <Even> Would be great if someone could...
18:46:10 <tymerkaev> Even: you have 32 or 64-bit edition?
18:47:16 <tymerkaev> hey
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18:49:46 <Even> Ok, we have it.
18:49:49 <Even> 64bits.
18:49:53 <Even> I found the problem.
18:50:01 <Even> https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d28b0e3d12d9
18:50:10 <Even> This revision is very likely the cause of the error.
18:50:47 <Even> I'll see with flo but I think the best way is to back it out.
18:50:49 <Even> At least for now.
18:51:12 <tymerkaev> Even: agree
18:51:22 <tymerkaev> try backout
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18:52:00 <Even> maybe we can fin a way to fix the problem wthout backing it out
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18:53:01 <Even> Well, at least you can try the zip version.
18:53:03 <Even> Should work.
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18:53:42 <Mic> ah, version 0.3a1pre .. and every last addon disabled as punishment for over-eagerly updating ;)
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18:55:10 <Even> re
18:55:21 <Even> I'm using 0.2rc1 using the zip file.
18:55:27 <Even> Seems to work as expected.
18:55:47 <Even> If you want to look at it, there's still that possibility.
18:56:24 <clokep> Mic: Just disable addon compatibility checking. :P Its for the weak. ;)
18:56:31 <Even> lol
18:56:44 <Even> That's so much true :P
18:56:45 <Mic> I know, thanks 
18:57:13 <Mic> That's a sort of "force" option :)
18:57:39 <Even> ;)
18:58:06 <Even> Well, I'm surprised to see how quick it was to find the origin o the problem :)
18:58:15 <Mic> There's nothing more annoying as when you think "hey that should be working and some stupid program logic keeps you from doing it"
18:58:18 <Even> Even better, the problem and its origin.
18:58:20 <clokep> Aren't like 90% of add-ons made by people who go on IRC? I'm sure they'll be updated. :P
18:58:25 <Even> Less than 10 minutes after the file is available :P
18:59:06 <Mic> clokep: could you raise the version number on the Auto Link extension?
18:59:07 <Even> About this, I'll add 0.3pre version in addons for people to be able to tag their adons as working with this version.
18:59:20 <Even> It would be sad to prevent them from updating ^^
18:59:57 <Even> here you go !
19:00:05 <clokep> Mic: I'll raise if and incorporate the fix for all non #instantbird channels tonight.
19:00:09 <Even> 0.3pre is now available on addons.
19:00:24 <Even> oO
19:00:35 <clokep> Who do I talk to about getting my addon no longer marked experimental anyway so people can actually get updates. :P
19:00:38 <Mic> Even: thanks
19:01:21 <clokep> Even: Shouldn't it to be 0.3a1pre not 0.3pre?
19:02:21 <Even> well, you're right
19:02:22 <Even> I'm tired
19:02:30 <Even> Thanks.
19:02:33 <Even> A lot.
19:03:02 <Mic> I've no idea how the update mechanism detemines which version is in which range with these alphanumeric version numbers
19:03:10 <Even> lol
19:03:13 <Even> this website is stupid
19:03:28 <Even> it won't let me remove 0.3pre because "there are stll files associated with it"
19:03:29 <Even> as if...
19:03:45 <Even> Or you are really quick guys :D
19:04:09 <clokep> Haha, it wasn't me. :P
19:04:10 <Mic> me
19:04:22 <Even> love the hard way
19:04:26 <Mic> I changed it to the correct one
19:04:27 <Even> let's go into the database manually
19:04:36 <clokep> Mic, it does it by the #s, then pre < a < b...
19:04:51 <Mic> Even: I already had one as 0.3pre there
19:04:57 <clokep> but 0.3a1pre is < 0.3a1 < 0.3b1pre < 0.3b1 < 0.3pre < 0.3 < 0.3.1a1pre, etc.
19:04:58 <Mic> try again the normal way
19:05:59 <clokep> Need to go, talk ot you guys later. Great job with the RC. :)
19:06:10 <Even> ok
19:06:24 <Even> I can't even understand how you added it :P
19:06:38 <Even> ok
19:06:41 <Even> it's gone
19:06:59 <Even> you're reaaally quick ^^
19:07:38 <Mic> You said it's there and since I already was on the page
19:07:57 <Mic> I thought I could update mine as it would only take more time if I put it on my ToDo list
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19:20:50 <Even> ^^
19:25:50 <tymerkaev> Where's 0.3a1pre builds?
19:26:09 <tymerkaev> I can't see it here: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/
19:26:31 <tymerkaev> or here: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-0.3a1pre/
19:46:50 <flo> the installer doesn't start on Windows XP either
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21:08:56 <Mic> 'Italians' winning the worldcup :S
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22:23:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dbebf9abbb07 - Florian Quèze - Fix regression from 9f03801289c1.
22:23:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8949073f5575 - Florian Quèze - Fix regression from 9f03801289c1.
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22:52:05 <flo> there should be another release candidate (with a working installer on Windows) in a few hours
22:52:06 <flo> good night! :)
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