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00:07:34 --> pok3 has joined #instantbird 00:07:43 <-- pok3 has left #instantbird () 01:15:02 <-- GeekShad0w has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02:54:41 --> iBool has joined #instantbird 05:48:58 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 07:34:38 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 07:35:33 <Amfi> Hi :) 07:36:13 <Amfi> Will the website 2.0 be multilingual? Or at least the add-ons? 08:36:25 <flo> Amfi: I'd love that, but I don't think it's realistic for 0.2 08:36:35 <flo> I guess it's something we will improve on later 08:37:07 <Amfi> Just give us the tools, and the Polish version will be first ;) 08:37:33 <Amfi> I haven't followed irc recently.. 08:37:34 <flo> yeah, given http://instantbird.pl/, I'm not surprised ;) 08:37:39 <Amfi> :D 08:37:51 <Amfi> Is there any set date for 0.2 yet? 08:38:28 <flo> oh, "Instantbird on Facebook" "Instantbird has 3 fans" :-D 08:38:44 <flo> unfortunately, no. I don't know when the update system will be ready :( 08:38:49 <Amfi> Huge fan-club we've got :D 08:39:33 <flo> there a "I love Instantbird" facebook group somewhere 08:41:08 <Amfi> I can see only one other Instantbird page.. 08:41:19 <Amfi> Is it official one? 08:42:05 <flo> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9091979396 08:42:48 <flo> It was created by goulagman, I don't know if that makes it "official" 08:43:27 <Amfi> fb search engine did not show this one to me 08:43:43 <Amfi> I guees the biggest one will become official :) 08:44:00 <flo> oh, so I don't know what was the other one you were seeing then 08:44:06 <flo> most likely :) 08:45:18 <Amfi> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Instantbird/131737273505523 08:46:02 <flo> the search doesn't show this page to me :-S 08:46:11 <flo> bah... 08:46:19 <Amfi> :D 08:54:51 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 09:58:51 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:20:41 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:21:56 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 11:22:01 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:34:41 <Mic> Ah, communication :) 11:34:45 <Mic> That's good. 12:33:21 <flo> :) 13:25:54 <Mic> flo: I am indeed talking about "local privacy" on this bug 13:26:21 <flo> that's what I guessed, but I figured it would be good to make things clear for other people reading the bug ;) 13:26:48 <Mic> Storing data online also sounds good to me as I'm using IB from different computers and can't access the logs easily from the others 13:26:48 <flo> "privacy" is often seen as a magic word (a bit like "security") and people sometimes put anything behind it 13:27:14 <flo> I'm interested in using something like weave to store the account and buddy lists 13:27:20 <flo> and looking into things like dropbox to store the logs 13:27:23 <Mic> I recently started using Weave (or Firefox Sync as it is called now) and I'm quite happy with it 13:43:58 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 14:06:35 <Mic> Welcome clokep 14:06:57 <clokep> Hello. 14:43:25 --> tymerkaev1 has joined #instantbird 14:44:03 <-- tymerkaev1 has left #instantbird () 15:01:18 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 16:47:50 --> Mic1 has joined #instantbird 16:49:56 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 17:19:30 * Mic1 is now known as Mic 17:32:02 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 17:36:32 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:55:41 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:48:09 <clokep> ping: Mic 18:51:34 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 423 filed by tymerkaev@gmail.com. 18:51:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Add "View Logs" menu item before implement new logs viewer 19:16:56 <Mic> re 19:17:10 <Mic> clokep: hi, what's up? 19:18:49 <clokep> Re: bug 415 19:18:52 <instantbot> clokep: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Detaching a tab over Skype contact list doesn't work 19:19:28 <clokep> When I drag a tab over a Skype contact it doesn't give me the "file drop" type command, it just gives me a not-allowed symbol and if I drop, the tab detaches. 19:19:57 <clokep> If that doesn't make sense, I'll post a screenshot in the bug later tonight. 19:20:29 <Mic> It's ok, I was just not sure if you were trying to drop over a contact or over some other part of the contact list 19:20:40 <Mic> It's working for any other part but the contacts themselves 19:20:54 <Mic> (here, for me ofcourse) 19:20:58 <clokep> Right, I'm saying the contacts do WFM. 19:21:55 <Mic> ok 19:22:02 <clokep> Skype: 5.0.0.105, Instantbird: 0.2pre (20100612042008), Windows 7. 19:22:15 <clokep> I can drop anywher eon the Skype window is what I'm saying. 19:22:26 <Mic> Is there Skype 5 already? 19:22:36 <clokep> It might be Beta? 19:22:43 <clokep> Yeah, seems its a beta. 19:22:47 <Mic> I'm still using 3.8 as I think they messed up the UI of Skype 4 19:23:15 <clokep> I agree, but it had some other features I needed (screen sharing w/ Mac I believe was one?) 19:23:49 <Mic> flo: maybe we should merge bug 415 and bug 274 to a general drag&drop bug 19:23:52 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Detaching a tab over Skype contact list doesn't work 19:23:53 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Privacy mode 19:24:10 <Mic> bug 273 then 19:24:13 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Detacting a tab above the Firefox content area doesn't work 19:24:29 <Mic> Maybe I shouldn't cite bug numbers from the memory ;) 19:26:48 <clokep> Hah, just makes it all messy? But if it doesn't work with an old version of Skype, works with a new version...is it perhaps a Skype bug and not an Instantbird bug? 19:27:02 <clokep> Also, I can drag&drop a tab over the latest version of Minefield and it detaches fine. 19:28:06 <clokep> I have to get going actually. Thanks. 19:28:11 <Mic> bye 19:30:07 <flo> Mic: you can do as you see fit :) 19:30:21 <flo> even better if someone manages to find the actual cause of the bug, of course ;) 19:30:59 <Mic> As I'm not sure what the reason for this bug could be so I'd like to get another opinion 19:32:32 <Mic> Anyways, away for watching soccer again 19:34:50 <Mic> tymerkaev: it would take more than just a menu item as you need to select which user's logs you'd like to browse 19:36:15 <tymerkaev> but if that user not in your list (you removed it, forget about add after talk, etc.) 19:36:20 <tymerkaev> ?? 19:36:45 <tymerkaev> flo: ping 19:36:55 <Mic> Ah, that case is not covered yet, indeed 19:37:22 <Mic> away now, ttyl 19:39:50 <flo> I think we need, relatively soon, to design some menus for the buddy list 19:40:02 <flo> everything that is accessible from the context menu should also be from a regular menu 19:40:40 <flo> and things like starting a conversation or showing the history should benefit from completion/selecting in the list, but also allow typing a buddy name that isn't know yet 20:20:57 <Mic> re 20:24:17 <Mic> As a "Buddy"-menu that is a copy of the context menu? 20:24:36 <Mic> I think menus are cluttered on most IM clients :S 20:25:57 <flo> menus are bad for everything but discoverability (and maybe accessibility) 20:26:34 <flo> it's slow, ugly, messy, ... But some people expect them. When you are lost in an application, the typical reaction is to explore the menus 20:27:49 <Mic> http://xkcd.com/627/ 20:28:45 <flo> exactly! 20:28:51 <flo> I like the "pick one at random" :) 20:30:31 <flo> tymerkaev: for your information, when you file a bug, you automatically receive email notification about changes, so you probably don't need to CC yourself to bugs you filed. 20:30:58 <flo> and I'm watching all bug changes, so whatever changes on the bugzilla, I'm notified by email, so you usually don't need to CC me either ;) 20:31:16 <tymerkaev> I know it, but I forget about uncheck "Add me to CC list" 20:31:33 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 20:31:35 <flo> so do I! :-D 20:33:27 <Mic> "File" is still the worst misnomer on the menus 20:34:11 <Mic> Maybe we should name is "Misc." instead ;) 20:34:35 <flo> feel free to propose improvements for the menus, either in a bug or in a wiki page :) 20:35:04 <flo> yeah, "Misc" for "MISorganised Crap" ;) 20:35:31 <Mic> "Miscellaneous" 20:42:06 <Mic> Typeahead filtering for the buddy list would be nice 20:43:51 <Mic> If someone types (+enter?) something that's not there yet? Ask for adding a new buddy to the list/popup the add-buddy-dialog, maybe? 20:44:29 <Mic> Atleast I would like that 20:51:34 <Mic> flo: I can't find the link to the mockups/screenshot of the status bar on top of the buddylist 20:51:40 <Mic> Would you mind posting it again? 20:52:12 <Mic> The one with the buddy icon .. 20:52:26 <flo> Mic: what about "start a conversation", and add automatically somewhere in the autocompletion list everybody to whom we have ever talked at least once? 20:52:51 <flo> arg, I need to get really better at posting screenshots 20:53:12 <flo> one day I'll have that all organized on screenshot.ib.org or florian.ib.org and a twitter post for each new screenshot :-D 20:54:36 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/buddy-list-status-winxp4.png 20:54:58 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/buddy-list-status.png 20:56:00 <Mic> Thank you 20:56:35 <flo> np 21:19:06 <Mic> Maybe move them to a separate directory and make it listable for the time being, would be good enough to be able to figure it out yourself 21:19:13 <Mic> Right now it's just not possible 21:44:10 <Mic> good night 21:44:46 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 22:13:57 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:35:07 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 23:26:32 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 23:37:35 <-- goulagman has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre)