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01:14:49 * Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 01:55:53 --> Apple has joined #instantbird 02:13:28 <-- goulagman has left #instantbird () 02:22:35 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 02:43:35 --> debiandebian has joined #instantbird 03:04:58 <-- Apple has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 04:43:21 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 06:57:17 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 07:01:04 --> flo has joined #instantbird 07:01:05 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 07:01:28 <flo> hi :) 07:08:30 <tymerkaev> hello 08:58:49 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:59:11 <Mic> hi 09:00:04 <flo> Mic: good morning :) 09:04:13 <Mic> It's 11 o'clock, I hope you're kidding me;) 09:04:40 <flo> it's still morning at 11am, isn't it? :) 09:09:35 <Mic> I guess this opinion depends on when your day starts .. ;) 09:10:09 <flo> I usually arrive at the office at 8:22am 09:10:32 <flo> and I assume it's morning until I go get lunch :) 10:57:47 --> FStyle has joined #instantbird 11:16:11 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 11:23:01 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 11:48:58 --> flo has joined #instantbird 11:48:58 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 11:50:41 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 11:50:50 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 11:51:06 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 12:08:19 * Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 12:32:08 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 12:32:34 * Mic is not sure what's worse: 'software implementing bad UI behaviour of the windowing system' or 'software replacing it with something better' :S 12:33:21 <flo> Mic: hmm, example? 12:33:37 <Mic> Mathematica on Linux .. 12:35:12 <Mic> Basically you can extend this to anything: is it worse to use something bad or to replace it with something the user doesn't expect because it's not the default behaviour? 12:41:14 <flo> the answer probably depends on the time the user has available to learn to use the new system, and how long the usage will last 12:52:27 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 12:53:21 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:10:32 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:48:56 <Mic> Changing such things is only possible as long as few programs do it .. otherwise using a computer would be hardly possible imo (if every program would display similiar functions differently (custom dialogs, close buttons, ..) ) 13:49:57 <Mic> (that's why I'm not a big friend of applications with UI themes/skins either) 13:51:10 <flo> it's possible only for applications that the users uses A LOT. Not for every little tool that will be used once a week 14:26:32 <-- FStyle has quit (Ping timeout) 15:14:02 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 15:27:38 <-- Amfi has left #instantbird () 15:35:30 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 15:45:04 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:03:20 <-- debiandebian has quit (Ping timeout) 16:03:59 --> debiandebian has joined #instantbird 17:02:21 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 17:23:26 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 17:24:05 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 17:24:15 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 17:24:18 <-- Amfi has left #instantbird () 17:28:01 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:33:19 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 17:33:26 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 17:33:50 <vicnet> hello everyone 17:33:55 <Mic> hi 17:44:44 <Morian> hey vicnet! 17:45:23 <vicnet> hi Morian 17:47:28 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 17:47:55 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 17:52:41 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 18:31:45 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 18:32:38 <deOmega> Colorize is absolutely awesome 18:34:05 <Mic> :) 18:35:06 <deOmega> do you use it MIC? 18:35:20 <Mic> Yes, I do. And I like it 18:35:53 <deOmega> I have been sending captures to folks :).. yeah, i am a little proud :) 18:48:43 --> flo has joined #instantbird 18:48:44 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 18:50:23 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 18:56:32 <-- Amfi has left #instantbird () 18:56:39 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 19:00:41 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 19:00:46 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 19:00:54 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Amfi) 19:00:58 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 19:15:05 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 19:26:02 <Amfi> flo: I have just installed the latest nightly together with our l10n and the default buddies' group is set to 'Contacts' although the defaultGroup has been translated: http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/pl/repos/file/2509ad1f443d/instantbird/chrome/instantbird/instantbird.properties 19:28:02 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 19:32:44 <flo> Amfi: the defaultGroup string is used only when the default group doesn't exist yet (neither on the server side list, nor on the list stored in your profile) 19:34:00 <Amfi> Sure, but when I add a contact it should put it to the 'Kontakty' group - not 'Contacts', shouldn't it? 19:34:48 <flo> I don't understand :-/ 19:35:06 <Amfi> OK, in the other way 19:35:24 <Amfi> I have a buddy on my list 19:36:13 <Amfi> he is currently in the group 'Aaa' created by me 19:36:46 <Amfi> when I right-click him and try to change the group, the English string 'Contacts' is being shown 19:36:59 <Amfi> my question is how to force it to be in PL :) 19:39:17 <flo> you probably have an empty group named "Contacts" (we don't delete empty groups (yet)) 19:42:05 <Amfi> Is this group created while installing IB? Is there a possibility to have it localizable? 19:42:47 <flo> it's created when you add a contact and don't specify a group, and are running using the en-US 19:43:19 <flo> if you created your profile before you started working on the translation, it was probably created while you were running the en-US version 19:47:19 <Amfi> yeah, i've installed the EN version first. Seems like in PL build it should work properly. Thanks, I understand it now :) 19:51:05 <flo> no problem :) 19:51:32 <flo> Thanks for checking carefully that all details are localized :) 20:06:37 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 20:14:15 <deOmega> SPLAT!! tiring day. have a godo one folks. 20:14:32 <deOmega> hi Flo.. colorize is awesome, thanks 20:14:35 <deOmega> working very well 20:14:55 <flo> deOmega: you are welcome :) 20:15:50 <deOmega> ah, that reminds me.. one moment before i go.. there is a command i remember doing in Mirc.. will look for it befor ei shut down 20:18:18 <deOmega> found it.. it is used in MIRC.. so do not know if or how it can be implemented here and I am pretty sure it is extremely low priority.. but here it is for what it is worth: 20:18:38 <deOmega> Replying to a user by clicking on his name and bring it into the editbox: 20:18:38 <deOmega> There's the inbuilt nick-completion that you can use without a mouse, just type the first few letters of a nick, and keep pressing TAB until the right one appears. 20:18:38 <deOmega> Failing that, using this line in Options/Mouse under 'Nick List': 20:18:38 <deOmega> Code: 20:18:38 <deOmega> editbox -fa $$1 $+ : $editbox($active) 20:18:38 <deOmega> This will remove the ability of double-clicking a nick to bring up a query window, but will put the nick followed by a colon at the start of the editbox, even if you've already typed something. 20:19:22 <deOmega> see u tomorrow 20:19:53 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 20:20:28 <flo> heh, he left before I could give the link to the replytonick add-on :-/ 20:21:04 <flo> in case he reads the log: http://queze.net/goinfre/replytonick-1.0.xpi 20:27:57 <-- Amfi has quit (Ping timeout) 21:01:24 <Mic> good night 21:02:03 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 21:40:42 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 21:43:47 <flo> deOmega: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/100419/#m110 21:44:55 <flo> deOmega: with this add-on, clicking on a message adds "<nick>: " at the beginning of the input box. 21:45:44 <flo> and, we have discussed things related to completion using the tab key a while ago (some notes are at https://wiki.instantbird.org/Brainstorm:completion) 21:46:13 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 21:46:20 <flo> "we discussed completion on IRC in april 2009" uh, already a year :-/ 21:48:07 <deOmega> hi Flo. 21:48:17 <deOmega> I will be right there... awesome 21:51:21 <deOmega> wait.. so u have that feature? 21:51:28 <deOmega> i am gonna do teh addon 21:55:43 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 21:56:04 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 21:56:55 <deOmega> hello? 21:58:43 <flo> deOmega: "wait.. so u have that feature? " it's an add-on. 21:58:54 <deOmega> flo: haha 21:58:57 <deOmega> yes, it works now 21:59:03 <deOmega> thank you so much 21:59:06 <flo> I mean, the "click" thing, not the tab completion 21:59:28 <flo> it doesn't do anything when clicking on your own message, because this is very likely a mistake 21:59:52 <flo> (a known bug: it shouldn't do anything either when clicking on a link inside a message) 22:00:15 <deOmega> flo: this is actually better than mirc... because with MIRC, when you enable it, you can not singleclick on someone's name in the nick list and start a pm 22:00:19 <flo> if you click on a link, you are most likely opening the link, not clicking to reply 22:00:21 <deOmega> this is nice. works 22:01:02 <deOmega> man.. this is so nice 22:01:03 <flo> it works on the whole message, including the nick, date, etc... so it's a pretty big target for the mouse 22:01:16 <deOmega> flo: yes 22:01:21 <deOmega> lol 22:02:03 <flo> the really nice part is how simple the source code of the add-on is 22:02:10 <flo> reply to nick is https://hg.instantbird.org/addons/repos/rev/9e463698651b 22:02:25 <flo> Colorize is https://hg.instantbird.org/addons/repos/rev/f337575da2de 22:02:36 <flo> each of them took less than 2 hours to fully develop. 22:02:52 <deOmega> flo: wait, when i clicked on that link.. i got your nick here too 22:03:02 <deOmega> but that is s till NOT an issue.. this is simply nice 22:03:11 <flo> I said it's a known bug 22:03:19 <flo> when clicking on a link it should not do that 22:03:54 <deOmega> OK... sometimes i think i gloss over pertinent information, due to excitement :) 22:04:34 <flo> don't worry, we all do that sometimes ;) 22:05:16 <deOmega> however, because of the clarity and ease with communicating this allows.. such abug is not a deal killer for me 22:05:20 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 22:06:04 <deOmega> seems like you have a lot of hidden addons in your bag.. i would take them all :) 22:06:14 <flo> it's only an add-on, not a feature integrated in the product so... I tend to think bugs are more acceptable their, when the feature that is the whole point of the add-on works 22:06:31 <deOmega> makes sense 22:06:46 <flo> *there 22:07:00 <deOmega> the cool thing is, it does not do it to my own text 22:07:41 <flo> deOmega: "seems like you have a lot of hidden addons in your bag.." not really. But I have a lot of add-on ideas in my todo list ;) 22:08:37 <deOmega> flo: haha 22:08:54 <deOmega> can you make the feature require doubleclick? 22:09:30 <flo> hmm 22:09:38 <flo> I guess that would make sense 22:09:50 <flo> another improvement I want to do is when replying to multiple people 22:10:30 <flo> currently it does "<nick1>: <nick2>: <nick3>: ", I'd like it to do instead "<nick1>, <nick2>, <nick3>: " :) 22:11:02 <deOmega> ah, comma vs colon? 22:11:43 <deOmega> you know.. the doubleclick may eliminate teh conflict with links.. since links require just single click 22:11:44 <flo> that's what I would write if it wasn't automated, so I guess the automation should match my behavior :) 22:11:49 <deOmega> no? 22:12:06 <flo> yes. But I think I'll eliminate links anyway 22:12:25 <flo> but double click will eliminate the conflict with selecting in order to put in the clipboard 22:12:44 <deOmega> right right 22:13:18 <flo> anyway, it's late, I need to sleep. Good evening! :) 22:13:27 <deOmega> I will say this... I use mirc as my irc client... when you are ready to do the IRC aspect 22:13:41 <deOmega> i woould be more than happy just to itemize what woudl make me give up mirc 22:13:55 <deOmega> flo: ok.. have a great evening.. thanks a million 22:17:00 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 22:38:39 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre)