#instantbird log on 03 31 2010

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08:19:31 <Mic> morning
08:19:34 <Mic> Morian: log issues, once again
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11:14:29 <flo> hi :)
11:24:25 <Mic> hi
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14:08:57 <Ruyan> I have a problem with creating account in Thunderbird3 with library from instantbird, pastbin: http://pastebin.com/EPPeJ69g, pls look at it.
14:11:42 <flo> check that the protocol plugin is correctly loaded
14:12:27 <flo> see http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/debug/debug.js#64
14:26:03 <Mic> Bug 399 is a WONTFIX, if I recall our chat about it correctly?
14:26:07 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Add Clear Logs button
14:26:45 <flo> not necessarily. But I won't touch it before we replace completely the current logging system
14:27:51 <Mic> hehe, a "RESOLVED LATER" then :P
14:28:43 <flo> on bugzilla.mozilla.org, it's: target milestone: Future
14:38:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 402 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
14:38:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fail to properly update status icon on tooltips
14:40:16 <flo> have you tried this on a nightly?
14:40:32 <flo> the bug description looks almost exactly like what I tried to fix with https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/3939a3bb7b66
14:40:41 <Mic> yes?
14:41:05 <Mic> Yes, a nightly .. that's what "version: trunk" is for, isn't it?
14:41:26 <Mic> wait
14:42:28 <Mic> It's build 20100330041408
14:43:44 <flo> I can't reproduce the bug in my current nightly
14:43:50 <flo> I could before this patch
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14:46:25 <Mic> Strange .. for me it's occuring again
14:46:40 <Mic> Even after the update to the latest nightly
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14:53:26 <Mic> I think my setup is ok
14:54:07 <Mic> I'll have a look at this later on Windows as well
14:54:35 <flo> I've tested only on mac
14:58:53 <Mic> bye
14:59:04 <flo> good evening :)
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17:31:29 <Mic> flo: the problem also exists on Windows
17:32:06 <Mic> Anyone wants to try to reproduce bug 402 ?
17:32:09 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fail to properly update status icon on tooltips
17:38:44 <deOmega> on windows MIC?
17:38:56 <Mic> For example
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17:39:28 <Mic> On Linux and Windows I'd say yes, flo said on Mac it's fixed
17:40:09 <Mic> bbl
17:40:32 <deOmega> ok.. i am  trying to wrap my brain  around teh issue that needs to be addressed...   i have read it twice already :)
17:41:36 <Federg> There are collaborators for translation into Spanish for the app?
17:42:27 <tymerkaev> Federg: send message to florian@instantbird.org
17:43:33 <Federg> ok thanks
17:45:38 <deOmega> how is it  different folks have so many different nick colors in here... i mean, it isnice.. just wondering  how
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17:46:18 <deOmega> would be nice if that can be transferred to regular messenger
17:49:53 <deOmega> nmic: I  fail to understand it at the moment, so  will not be able to help.  Comprehension has left the building :)
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17:57:11 <flo> deOmega: what do you mean by "would be nice if that can be transferred to regular messenger
17:57:12 <flo> "? (while talking about the colors)
17:58:59 <deOmega> ooh...   
17:59:22 <deOmega> each time someone speaks in here... theiname shows up in a color assigned to their nick
17:59:28 <deOmega> while mine is white
17:59:33 <deOmega> pretty nice
17:59:52 <deOmega> whereas.. in   ims such as  say aol chat through IB
18:00:01 <deOmega> all  nicks are white
18:00:34 <deOmega> or black, depending on teh message theme
18:01:14 <flo> it's the color for "incoming" messages that is defined in the message theme
18:01:14 <deOmega> message style
18:02:02 <flo> do you mean you would like to have the application automatically generate a color based on the name of the person, or that you would like to be able to set a specific color for some specific buddies?
18:02:37 <deOmega> Yes.. set colors for specific buddies... that would be absiolutely awesome
18:02:49 <deOmega> Mindblowingly awesome from my perspective
18:03:19 <deOmega> let me give you  this user's perspective if I may:
18:03:34 <deOmega> I communicate with a LOT of folks as i actively work
18:03:58 <deOmega> not everyone has  avatar... that used to help in differenctiating users at a glance
18:04:27 <deOmega> So, i am usually working and i  see an indication of a message.. and i respond
18:04:49 <deOmega> there hav ebeen many tiemes that i respond to the wrong window... because i did not pay close enough attention
18:05:14 <flo> I've been thinking for a long time that we need a very visible way to differentiate conversations, to avoid the "oops, this line wasn't for you" moments 
18:05:27 <deOmega> when teh information is sensitive, i am very  deliberate about  where  and who I am responding to.. so i have lno incidents... ah. YES
18:05:32 <flo> I thought first about a message theme that would allow having a background image
18:05:33 <deOmega> You know excatly what i am saying
18:05:35 <deOmega> thank you
18:05:46 <flo> and the user could set a background image for each contact that really matters
18:06:49 <flo> but I tend to think things that will require the user to configure something will be used very rarely
18:07:11 <flo> you would probably configure it for one or two contacts (your wife for example), but not most of your contacts
18:07:30 <deOmega> But that would limit us to specific message styles.. as opposed to if we had something that would just at least  customize  contacts name colors.. no?
18:07:50 <flo> so using the background color of the bubbles automatically would be interesting (no configuration needed at all :))
18:08:19 <deOmega> so, say  for example..teh message style.. dark
18:08:33 <deOmega> i could set the background color, per contact? that would benice
18:08:50 <flo> the dark theme will have an update... soon :)
18:09:06 <flo> there's a patch waiting in my email inbox... addressing the issues you reported
18:09:17 <deOmega> there are some contacts we do not care what we type to them and it could even be a mistake.. while there are others that one has to be absolutely cautious
18:09:29 <deOmega> OHHH, nice nice...  eagerly waiting :)
18:10:45 <deOmega> right now... and  just remember i am using teh dark style
18:11:23 <deOmega> if i am  posting a message.. i have to make sure i am under teh brightest highlighted tab
18:11:48 <deOmega> but    in  this forum, it is soo easy  to know i am speaking to you because your nick is red
18:12:06 <deOmega> of course, after all my rambling.. it has been scrolled out of view :)
18:12:22 <flo> I'm not sure what you are talking about
18:12:52 <flo> "i have to make sure i am under teh brightest highlighted tab" I think this is the line I don't understand
18:13:31 <deOmega> LOL.. yeah,  gibberish  :)..  clarifting:
18:13:44 <deOmega> the  tab in focus is usually bright white
18:14:07 <deOmega> so I always have to make sure that is  the one i am under
18:14:42 <deOmega> the tabs that are not  in focus are dark white
18:15:10 <deOmega> where was i going with that? :(
18:16:21 <flo> it's dinner time. You will probably know by the time I get back ;)
18:16:29 <deOmega> ok,  i think i was emphasizing  how the nick color helps
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20:46:20 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/5b0dae559c72 - Florian Quèze - Send HTML that is more compatible with AIM, Yahoo and WLM.
20:46:21 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/02aa6a8124d3 - Florian Quèze - Make the MSN prpl understand '<br/>' tags in addition of '<br>'.
20:46:22 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/85712ec59ce4 - Florian Quèze - In the Yahoo prpl, replace the 'absz' attribute by a 'style' attribute using standard CSS for the absolute font size.
20:46:23 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ce3cea14c24f - Quentin Castier - Improve color handling in the 'Dark' message theme.
20:46:24 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dcaf94ed6007 - Quentin Castier - Add a set of Grey variants to the 'Bubbles' message theme.
21:02:37 <deOmega>  Quentin Castier - Improve color handling in the 'Dark' message theme.....  woohoo
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21:34:40 <flo> good night
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