#instantbird log on 12 09 2009

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06:22:53 <Mitch> Hi, flo. I've missed you. :)
06:22:56 * Mitch vomits
06:23:15 <flo> tss
06:23:27 <flo> anyway... hi :)
06:26:14 <Mitch> flo: Instantbird needs moar release.
06:26:36 <flo> 0.2b1 is nearly released :)
06:27:06 <Mitch> Awesome.
06:27:19 <flo> the builds are ready, the release notes too. I just need to write a blog post to announce it
06:31:13 <flo> if you want to see the not-yet-published-on-the-main-site release notes, https://hg.instantbird.org/websites/www.instantbird.com/repos/raw-file/41e9b8dec146/download-0.2b1.html
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09:35:47 <Mic> hej
09:43:20 <flo> hi :)
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13:50:30 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> weren't we gonna fix this a while back? http://lxde.org/wiki/Planet_LXDE
15:01:10 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 279 filed by octi_i@hotmail.com.
15:01:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, style tags appear in other people's conversation windows
15:12:06 <flo> that bug looks annoying :(
16:09:28 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> so it actually shows to his buddy with all that HTML crap written in text format?
16:10:53 <flo> yes
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16:14:23 <Mic> DetroitLibertyPenguin: I've got a partial fix for the "LXDE"-bug lying around .. maybe I should just finish this one next
16:15:04 <flo> how are you doing it?
16:15:07 <Mic> It makes use of textmodifiers to create the links btw
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16:16:25 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> how am I doing what?
16:16:34 * Mic . Not you ;)
16:16:47 * DetroitLibertyPenguin thinks its always about him
16:17:23 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin: it was for Mic ;)
16:18:34 <Mic> It's been a while since I did something on it
16:19:12 <Mic> I thought there was a basic question why it works this way .. but I need to look again to be sure
16:19:35 <flo> no, the question was just how you avoid smileys in URLs
16:20:28 <flo> I guess it's because we don't replace anything in the content created by the text modifiers
16:21:04 <Mic> I think it was that I wasn't completely sure at this moment that we're skipping it for other text modifiers
16:21:14 <Mic> well, either way: need to look at it
16:23:57 * flo looks at http://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Translation and thinks it still lacks some content :(
16:27:29 <Mic> I looked at this page recently and thought that it could use a very short outline of the process
16:27:39 <flo> yes
16:27:44 <flo> I think it should be less verbose
16:27:59 <flo> and we should probably keep only the process there, and move the hg tutorial to another page
16:28:02 <Mic> e.g. 5 lines that show what  to do in which order
16:28:16 <flo> but the part that is completely missing is: "how do I test my work?"
16:30:12 topic changed by flo to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2b1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
16:31:15 <flo> now I need the blog post! :)
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16:37:12 <DetroitLibertyPenguin1> well its not just smileys in URLs, because "LXDE" shouldn't do that or "check out :DetroitLibertyPenguin's website"
16:37:54 <DetroitLibertyPenguin1> its emoticons within text unless it has white sapce on both sides it shouldn't be an emoticon
16:38:35 <flo> maybe we should just add some \b in the regexp matching the emoticons
16:38:35 <DetroitLibertyPenguin1> or at the end of a sentence because that techincal is problem not whitespace :)
16:38:41 <flo> I'll try that :)
16:39:39 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin1: it's not white space, it's word boundary. Having a smiley next to ',' or '.' is very possible (and likely!)
16:39:59 <DetroitLibertyPenguin1> :-(
16:40:01 <DetroitLibertyPenguin1> right
16:40:13 <DetroitLibertyPenguin1> wait, how'd I end up with a 1?
16:40:36 <Mic> You rejoined before your old nick was kicked
16:40:45 <DetroitLibertyPenguin1> apparently
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16:41:16 <flo> but \b in a regexp is "Matches a word boundary, such as a space or a newline character. (Not to be confused with [\b].) For example, /\bn\w/ matches the 'no' in "noonday";/\wy\b/ matches the 'ly' in "possibly yesterday."" so that's probably worth a try ;)
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16:41:18 <Mic> Can we abbreviate this as A² ? :P
16:41:29 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> Mic, well of course!
16:42:03 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> flo, I think I'll have to believe you on that one, score one for the french!
16:42:52 <flo> it's from: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Guide/Regular_Expressions ;)
16:43:23 <Mic> That's worth a try
16:43:45 <Mic> I think we still should replace the link-creation code as it doesn't work that well in my opinion
16:43:52 <flo> yes. I suspect there will be issues at the end and begining of lines, but it's worth trying
16:44:39 <Mic> I think I have a set of test/sample links that are perfectly valid (and even used in the wild;) but aren't recognized properly at the moment
16:45:17 <flo> and that emoticon wouldn't have been matched...
16:45:40 <flo> hmm, scratch that :)
16:46:12 <flo> but XDXDXD would not match
16:46:29 <flo> not sure that's a big loss though
16:48:29 <flo> Is that correct for the blog: http://queze.net/goinfre/blog-post-beta1.html ?
16:50:23 <Mic> gtg
16:51:34 <Mic> flo: I think there are people that write stuff like the concatenated smilies up there
16:55:19 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin: has the American any opinion on that (future) blog post?
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16:55:51 <Mitch> flo: You could look at ChatZilla's link munger, but it may leave you confused and worse off. :P
16:59:30 <flo> Mitch: that http://hg.mozilla.org/chatzilla/file/dbe469071ab8/xul/content/mungers.js#l49 ?
16:59:57 <Mitch> Probably.
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17:29:18 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ :
17:29:19 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/nocomm13.html - Instantbird 0.2 beta 1 released!
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17:51:04 <DetroitLibertyPenguin1> flo, that's asshole american, and it looks fine to me
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20:41:51 <Mic> ah, the blog posting is out
20:47:00 <Mic> nice summary
20:48:09 <Mic> btw two typos made it through the proof-reading: in "Preferences window" a->are, in "Smileys" replaces->replaced
21:24:16 <flo> Mic: "in "Smileys" replaces->replaced" this one was already in http://www.instantbird.com/download-0.2a1.html ;)
21:41:19 <flo> good night :)
21:54:06 <Mic> good night
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21:59:35 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/bedc995448ed - Florian Qu?ze - Make the 'copy' key binding in conversations less error prone.
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23:02:26 <instantbot> New Websites - www.instantbird.com bug 280 filed by pjdkrunkt@lycos.com.
23:02:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Wrong version listed on 0.2 Beta 1 download page.
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