#instantbird log on 12 08 2009

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08:21:16 <Mic> Good morning
09:44:04 <Morian> hi Mic
10:12:12 <Mic> hej
10:12:16 <Mic> how are you?
10:12:29 <Mic> Still so busy?
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10:51:40 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
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11:07:15 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
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12:27:26 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/5ed3f548002d - Florian Qu?ze - Improve Mac theme of the top of the nicklist.
12:27:27 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/93b38c13469a - Florian Qu?ze - Fix netsoul crash when receiving bad greetings from server.
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13:03:48 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 278 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
13:03:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Restart ignores previously used command line parameters
13:03:58 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 278 to WONTFIX.
13:05:33 <Mic> well, yes .. a great combo ;)
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14:21:20 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> anyone else sturgglin loggin on to AIM today?
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16:04:30 <iLobster> yes, but with ICQ in my case
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16:55:55 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin: try unchecking the "Use ClientLogin" checkbox in the advanced preferences of the AIM account.
16:56:44 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> flo: that worked, 
16:56:51 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> what does that actually do?
16:56:58 <flo> no idea.
16:57:14 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> well if you don't know, who woud?
16:57:19 <flo> that option used to be turned off by default
16:57:27 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> is this a libpurple thign?
16:57:28 <flo> it's enabled with the new libpurple (2.6.4)
16:57:41 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I'll take that as a yes
16:57:41 <flo> I've no idea what it does, nor why they decided to enable it by default
16:57:59 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> damn you libpurple!
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16:58:37 * flo thinks about disabling it by default soon in the nightlies
16:59:06 <flo> you are at least the 3rd nightly user having this issue...
17:00:10 <flo> and if I'm angry that day, I could even go as far as hiding completely that option, as I've no idea what it does, and the wording is completely meaningless :)
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17:02:19 <Mic> Reading on clientLogin:
17:02:19 <Mic> http://dev.aol.com/aim/oscar/#AUTH
17:02:19 <Mic> http://dev.aol.com/authentication_for_clients
17:02:51 <iLobster> with Use SSL unchecked there are less problems, btw (in my case of ICQ)
17:12:22 <iLobster> but since I live in the country where almost all dislike to use the original IM client software and AOL have particular attention on us - I'm not surprised when my ICQ account is not working :-)
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18:15:25 <flo> Mic: so if I understand that, clientLogin is a 'better' authentication method?
18:15:47 <Mic> I just scanned over these two documents
18:15:54 <Mic> I think it is an easier method
18:16:13 <flo> that probably doesn't justify having an option for it in the UI though. If it fails, the code should just fallback to whatever other method is implemented
18:19:42 <Mic> hmm, no
18:21:29 <Mic> Well, can't say until I've look closer at it
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18:48:09 <Tro> hi
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19:05:37 <Mic> flo: would plain and simple tooltips for the tabs also do?
19:05:44 <Mic> Something like http://wiki.instantbird.org/images/4/4b/Tab_tooltips.png
19:06:59 <Mic> well, highlighting some parts with bold text would be a good idea
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19:12:36 <Mic> Having the same tooltips would be nice though
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19:47:20 <flo> I'd like to reuse the same code as the one used for the tooltips in the buddy list
19:47:41 <flo> but some differences would be nice. The number of unread messages in the conversation for example :)
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19:51:39 <MattATobin> hey been a wile since i checked in with you guys hows it going... is the latest nightly good? i havnt been updating for a bit
19:51:57 <Mic> flo: I already decided to make the tooltips look alike
19:52:08 <Mic> I'm not sure if I can share the code though
19:52:45 <flo> I'm almost sure it's possible
19:52:54 <flo> that code has nothing to do in buddy.xml
19:58:16 <Mic> The count of unread messages is available somewhere?
19:58:32 <Mic> I thought it were just a all-read/some-unread flag ..
20:03:19 <flo> I think we count it for the the warning that pops up when you close tabs with unread messages
20:03:39 <flo> I'm not totally sure it's per-conversation. But I think it is
20:03:52 <flo> not sure it's accessible though. But it should be if it's not yet! :)
20:06:26 <Mic> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/instantbird/conversation.xml#266
20:08:29 <Mic> and http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/instantbird/tabbrowser.xml#444
20:09:13 <Mic> So it's only the number of tabs with unread messages
20:10:17 <Mic> We could make "unread" a variable which gets incremented with each message instead of a boolean
20:17:49 <Mic> btw the lxr search dies saying "Illegal characters in HTTP-parameters" when includeing double quotation marks
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